Does going to public cloud really helps you avoid lock-in as one of my clients told me? Interesting question, as in my mind, public cloud locks you in as much as any other proprietary environment. But maybe something else is meant. As you no longer own hardware, you may have the feeling there is no need for an infrastructure outsourcer anymore. But do public cloud providers provide all the functions you expect from an outsourcer, actually no. They have no end-to-end thinking as their only objective is to ensure their assets function well. So somebody needs to fill the gap, who will that be? Have you thought about it? Want to know more? Listen to the podcast.